From: Tribhuvan <trb.2000@phelis....>
To: ananda-marga-discourses-2@yogasamsthanam.net
Subject: Remaining Quiet Is Not The Solution
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2014 13:15:27
Baba
Namaskar,
Here is the practical example of how publications department is sloppy. Please review this short passage from the published discourse: "Taking the Opposite Stance in Battle."
"So towards the Entity who is so close to you, is it proper for you to entertain such false feelings of abhimána, gaorava and pratiśt́há? Caetanya Mahaprabhu, to help human beings, overcome this sense of vanity and lethargy, advised them to a psychological approach: trńadapi suniicena – be as humble as the grass. When people feel that others are not giving them proper regard, and as a result they feel psychically wounded, they should accept this golden principle to counteract this false sense of self-aggrandizement: one should consider oneself to be even humbler than the grass."
"But remember that this refers to individual and not collective behaviour. In collective life, pride should not be allowed to raise its head, it should not be condoned. In collective life one has no right to forgive anyone; in individual life you can extend maximum forgiveness – rather, the more forgiveness, the better. Forgiveness is something personal; it is not a collective matter. Suppose you are an inhabitant of India. If someone harms the collective life of India, you must not forgive them. Likewise, as you belong to the entire human race, you must not forgive anyone who harms humanity. But in individual life, however much one might harm you, you may forgive that person to the greatest extent possible. Thus it is said that one should be as humble as the grass. But remember that grass, although humble, is not insignificant: the universal life is manifested in grass. Without grass it would have been impossible for human beings to survive." (Ananda Marga Ideology and Way of Life - 11, Taking the Opposite Stance in Battle)
Here is the problem with the above printed passage:
1. The second sentence of the second paragraph which is coloured in red does not belong here. Baba did not speak that sentence when He originally delivered the discourse, and the sentence does not make sense.
2. Here is the problematic sentence which does not belong to the above discourse:
"In collective life, pride should not be allowed to raise its head, it should not be condoned."
3. In Ananda Marga philosophy, pride is never appreciated or looked upon as something grand - neither in individual life nor collective life. The above cited sentence does not belong in this discourse. Just it seems to have been randomly inserted and it misleads the reader and ruins the meaning of the entire paragraph. Only it is confusing.
This type of wrong insertion in the paragraph is akin to a white stone in the rice. One cannot see the white stone - because it blends in with the white rice - but it will break your teeth. Same is the case with the above sentence. It is not easy to depict that it does not belong, but it ruins the entire passage - just as a stone in the rice can ruin your teeth.
4. Furthermore, it ruins the previous sentence [coloured in green] which is related with humility - not pride. But the second sentence is written in such a way that it changes and distorts the meaning of the first sentence.
5. Our discourses are in bad shape - this sentence coloured in red does not belong in this discourse - rather it ruins the discourse. That red sentence does not belong here; this is an example of altering the discourse due to sloppiness.
6. Those responsible for publishing and printing our Ananda Marga discourses are more involved in court cases, and group fighting etc. They are not focused on publishing Baba's divine discourses in a pristine and accurate manner. When any error or mistake is pointed out, or when someone provides proof that the published discourses are inaccurate, then those publishers try and confuse the general margiis by painting a rosy picture, and casting false and malevolent accusations towards those bringing genuine points to the fore. This is their unsavory and unethical response to the problem at hand. All in all, the standard of the published Ananda Marga discourses is shameful, and the current state of affairs must not be allowed to continue and drag onwards.
If we remain passive onlookers and do not fix the negative trends of introducing distortion into Shrii Shrii Ánandamúrtiji's discourses — if we do not bring the printed discourses up to the proper standard now — it will become impossible to change this in the future. And even if in future some sincere Ánanda Márgiis will try, they will be treated as enemies. Because this is the way religion works: Today one cannot teach the devotees of Lord Krśńa that He has nothing to do with cows; they will never believe it.
In the same way, Ánanda Márgiis will become used to the wrong teachings in our AM books and they will not like to give them up. They will think that whatever was there at the end of the twentieth century, that was the gold standard for all time. And it should be kept and maintained.
Ánanda Má́rga is dharma — not religion— but we will face the same opposition from within to change, when wrong teachings get established.
So we don't have any time: it is either now or never. The clock is ticking: If we do not get Bábá's discourses fixed now, it will be impossible to do so later. And that will cause bloodshed and more division on the basis of the various versions of Bábá's teachings and their explanations. History bears testimony to this: All the religions have similarly broken into multiple factions, groups and subgroups on the basis of differences in scripture interpretations. Bábá wanted to eliminate such problems, and that is why Bábá's discourses are recorded. But unfortunately, those recordings are not being published properly. This matter is very serious.
The distortions introduced by Tiljala group in their publications of Bábá’s discourses are errors of commissional in nature. But let none make the mistake of thinking that H and EC groups are innocent here; by their failure to take interest in publishing Bábá’s original discourses, they demonstrate a lethargy toward Bábá’s shástra which is highly condemnable.
H and EC groups’ failure to publish Bábá’s original discourses is a failure of omission. The omissional error of H and EC is every bit as serious as the commissional errors of Tiljala group. And moreover, H group's publishing department merely reprints the distortion-laden, error-filled books made by Tiljala group, and puts their stamp on it. So they are supporting and participating in the sins of Tiljala group.
It is regrettable that H and EC groups have shown no interest in Bábá’s discourses, otherwise they would have become active in publishing them from the original sound track, instead of merely reprinting the books which the Tiljala group publishes.
Namaskar in Him,
Tribhuvan
- Notes From Moderators:
We are making a special request for volunteers to help in this work of producing and reviewing the “as is” discourses. Márgii volunteers are needed from all countries around the world, to help with translating the “as is” discourses into the various languages, and also to help with translating postings about distortions so that all Márgiis around the world can be made aware.
Comparing the “as is” discourses to the discourses published by our AMPS is a big job, and help here is also needed. We welcome a hand from any and all who are inspired and interested to serve in the protection of the discourses of Lord Shrii Shrii Ánandamúrtiji.
Need For Audio Recordings
In order to produce “As Is” discourses, there is a need for audio cassettes of Bábá's discourses. These are treated with the utmost of care as we do the job for which the recordings were made: Discourse transcription. So any who have recordings of Bábá's discourses are encouraged to contact us in order to get the recording transcribed in “As Is” fashion.
This Ánanda Má́rga Discourses Network does not have any agenda against any group. Its only goal is to repair and protect Lord Shrii Shrii Ánandamúrtiji's holy discourses so they will remain for the present and future humanity.
“Struggle is the essence of life. Yours should be a pauseless struggle against corruption, hypocrisy and animality.” (Ananda Vanii #11)
To: ananda-marga-discourses-2@yogasamsthanam.net
Subject: Remaining Quiet Is Not The Solution
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2014 13:15:27
Baba
Remaining
Quiet
Is Not The Solution
Namaskar,
Here is the practical example of how publications department is sloppy. Please review this short passage from the published discourse: "Taking the Opposite Stance in Battle."
"So towards the Entity who is so close to you, is it proper for you to entertain such false feelings of abhimána, gaorava and pratiśt́há? Caetanya Mahaprabhu, to help human beings, overcome this sense of vanity and lethargy, advised them to a psychological approach: trńadapi suniicena – be as humble as the grass. When people feel that others are not giving them proper regard, and as a result they feel psychically wounded, they should accept this golden principle to counteract this false sense of self-aggrandizement: one should consider oneself to be even humbler than the grass."
"But remember that this refers to individual and not collective behaviour. In collective life, pride should not be allowed to raise its head, it should not be condoned. In collective life one has no right to forgive anyone; in individual life you can extend maximum forgiveness – rather, the more forgiveness, the better. Forgiveness is something personal; it is not a collective matter. Suppose you are an inhabitant of India. If someone harms the collective life of India, you must not forgive them. Likewise, as you belong to the entire human race, you must not forgive anyone who harms humanity. But in individual life, however much one might harm you, you may forgive that person to the greatest extent possible. Thus it is said that one should be as humble as the grass. But remember that grass, although humble, is not insignificant: the universal life is manifested in grass. Without grass it would have been impossible for human beings to survive." (Ananda Marga Ideology and Way of Life - 11, Taking the Opposite Stance in Battle)
Here is the problem with the above printed passage:
1. The second sentence of the second paragraph which is coloured in red does not belong here. Baba did not speak that sentence when He originally delivered the discourse, and the sentence does not make sense.
2. Here is the problematic sentence which does not belong to the above discourse:
"In collective life, pride should not be allowed to raise its head, it should not be condoned."
3. In Ananda Marga philosophy, pride is never appreciated or looked upon as something grand - neither in individual life nor collective life. The above cited sentence does not belong in this discourse. Just it seems to have been randomly inserted and it misleads the reader and ruins the meaning of the entire paragraph. Only it is confusing.
This type of wrong insertion in the paragraph is akin to a white stone in the rice. One cannot see the white stone - because it blends in with the white rice - but it will break your teeth. Same is the case with the above sentence. It is not easy to depict that it does not belong, but it ruins the entire passage - just as a stone in the rice can ruin your teeth.
4. Furthermore, it ruins the previous sentence [coloured in green] which is related with humility - not pride. But the second sentence is written in such a way that it changes and distorts the meaning of the first sentence.
5. Our discourses are in bad shape - this sentence coloured in red does not belong in this discourse - rather it ruins the discourse. That red sentence does not belong here; this is an example of altering the discourse due to sloppiness.
6. Those responsible for publishing and printing our Ananda Marga discourses are more involved in court cases, and group fighting etc. They are not focused on publishing Baba's divine discourses in a pristine and accurate manner. When any error or mistake is pointed out, or when someone provides proof that the published discourses are inaccurate, then those publishers try and confuse the general margiis by painting a rosy picture, and casting false and malevolent accusations towards those bringing genuine points to the fore. This is their unsavory and unethical response to the problem at hand. All in all, the standard of the published Ananda Marga discourses is shameful, and the current state of affairs must not be allowed to continue and drag onwards.
Fix
Bábá's Discourses Now Or Never
If we remain passive onlookers and do not fix the negative trends of introducing distortion into Shrii Shrii Ánandamúrtiji's discourses — if we do not bring the printed discourses up to the proper standard now — it will become impossible to change this in the future. And even if in future some sincere Ánanda Márgiis will try, they will be treated as enemies. Because this is the way religion works: Today one cannot teach the devotees of Lord Krśńa that He has nothing to do with cows; they will never believe it.
In the same way, Ánanda Márgiis will become used to the wrong teachings in our AM books and they will not like to give them up. They will think that whatever was there at the end of the twentieth century, that was the gold standard for all time. And it should be kept and maintained.
Ánanda Má́rga is dharma — not religion— but we will face the same opposition from within to change, when wrong teachings get established.
So we don't have any time: it is either now or never. The clock is ticking: If we do not get Bábá's discourses fixed now, it will be impossible to do so later. And that will cause bloodshed and more division on the basis of the various versions of Bábá's teachings and their explanations. History bears testimony to this: All the religions have similarly broken into multiple factions, groups and subgroups on the basis of differences in scripture interpretations. Bábá wanted to eliminate such problems, and that is why Bábá's discourses are recorded. But unfortunately, those recordings are not being published properly. This matter is very serious.
Sin
Of Commission & Sin of Omission
The distortions introduced by Tiljala group in their publications of Bábá’s discourses are errors of commissional in nature. But let none make the mistake of thinking that H and EC groups are innocent here; by their failure to take interest in publishing Bábá’s original discourses, they demonstrate a lethargy toward Bábá’s shástra which is highly condemnable.
H and EC groups’ failure to publish Bábá’s original discourses is a failure of omission. The omissional error of H and EC is every bit as serious as the commissional errors of Tiljala group. And moreover, H group's publishing department merely reprints the distortion-laden, error-filled books made by Tiljala group, and puts their stamp on it. So they are supporting and participating in the sins of Tiljala group.
Why
Speak Out
It is regrettable that H and EC groups have shown no interest in Bábá’s discourses, otherwise they would have become active in publishing them from the original sound track, instead of merely reprinting the books which the Tiljala group publishes.
Namaskar in Him,
Tribhuvan
- Notes From Moderators:
Your Help Is Needed:
Request For Volunteers
Request For Volunteers
We are making a special request for volunteers to help in this work of producing and reviewing the “as is” discourses. Márgii volunteers are needed from all countries around the world, to help with translating the “as is” discourses into the various languages, and also to help with translating postings about distortions so that all Márgiis around the world can be made aware.
Comparing the “as is” discourses to the discourses published by our AMPS is a big job, and help here is also needed. We welcome a hand from any and all who are inspired and interested to serve in the protection of the discourses of Lord Shrii Shrii Ánandamúrtiji.
Need For Audio Recordings
In order to produce “As Is” discourses, there is a need for audio cassettes of Bábá's discourses. These are treated with the utmost of care as we do the job for which the recordings were made: Discourse transcription. So any who have recordings of Bábá's discourses are encouraged to contact us in order to get the recording transcribed in “As Is” fashion.
Only Goal Of Ánanda Má́rga
Discourses Network:
To Protect Bábá's Discourses
To Protect Bábá's Discourses
This Ánanda Má́rga Discourses Network does not have any agenda against any group. Its only goal is to repair and protect Lord Shrii Shrii Ánandamúrtiji's holy discourses so they will remain for the present and future humanity.
Essence
of Life
“Struggle is the essence of life. Yours should be a pauseless struggle against corruption, hypocrisy and animality.” (Ananda Vanii #11)
