Addendum Sound File - Ignorance of One Senior Purodha

To listen to a three minute clip in which Dada Rudranandji has made a huge blunder with a shloka before a television audience of millions, click here to download. The blunder is in his pronunciation of the shloka which starts at 3:05 and goes to 3:14.

Hindi Discourse Falsified as Bangla - Download Sound File & Check for Yourself

From: Kanhay Choudhary <kchoudhary@wbnet...>
To: Ananda Marga Discourses <anandamargadiscourses@sunlink.net>
Subject: Hindi Discourse Falsified as Bangla - Download Sound File & Check for Yourself
Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 16:28:41 +0530
 
Bábá

Hindi Discourse Falsified as Bangla
Download Sound File & Check for Yourself

Namaskar,

Thank you for your interest in this important topic that deals with the purity of Bábá's printed books.
Preview
This letter addresses another discourse in which the original language is stolen and covered up As Bangla. The discourse is from the newest English Ánanda Vacanámrtam, AV Part 13, chapter 10.
The letter contains the following points:
1: Please download the sound file so you can better understand this issue (see note 1).
2: The discourse under question and scrutiny is: AV13 "A Yogii Must Certainly Be A Theist".
3: This is a Patna Hindi Discourse, Stolen & Covered Up As Bangla.
4: All should know that Bábá originally delivered the discourse, AV13 "A Yogii Must Certainly Be A Theist," in Hindi on 30 June 1979, in Patna. But the publishers have declared that Bábá spoke in Bangla. That is their deception.
5: FACT: This discourse, "A Yogii Must Certainly Be A Theist", was given by Bábá in Hindi. They translated this discourse from Hindi into Bengali, and then again from Bengali into English—and published that twice-translated English version in the English book, Ánanda Vacanámrtam, part 13, chapter 10, p.82. But Bábá's rule is that translation is to be done directly from the original language, i.e. in this case from Hindi directly to English—which they did not do. So they disobeyed Bábá.
6: The printed and published English discourse does not match up with Bábá’s original Hindi which Bábá Himself spoke. The outcome is that instead of reading Bábá’s original words in direct translation, Márgiis are forced to read a twice-translated version which, due to being translated twice (first from Hindi to Bengali and then Bengali to English), is in great part far from what Bábá actually spoke in Hindi. This occurred due to not following Bábá's rule of translating directly from Hindi to English—and the ramifications of going against this rule are horrific.
7: Be sure to play the sound and carefully review the published discourse.  
8: For your reference and confirmation, the sound file containing Bábá’s original discourse has been posted to the blogsite (see note 1). Just by listening to a few words, anyone knowing Hindi can understand that Bábá is speaking Hindi – not Bengali.
9: You can contact any private business translating agency also and confirm with them that in this sound file, Bábá is speaking Hindi and not Bengali.
10: But look what the publishers have written about this very discourse in their Publisher’s Note:
"A Yogii Must Certainly Be A Theist". Discourse in Bengali. Tape. Originally published in Bengali as “Yogii Avashyai Ástik Haben” in Ánanda Vacanámrtam 13, 1980. First English Publication in Yoga Sadhana, 2010, tr. from the Bengali by Doctor Aditya Kumar Mohanty.
(Ánanda Vacanámrtam, part 13, Publisher’s Note, p. xxii)
So in their Publisher’s Note they are making the bogus claim that this discourse was originally given in Bengali. But this is wrong.
11: This proves that Professor Aditya Mohanty is a stooge, and his work is disgraceful. He betrayed Guru by falsifying the entire situation.
12: The purpose of this letter is to make Bábá's printed discourses authentic and dogma-free. This is not a language issue this is an issue of authenticity. The duty of every disciple of Lord Shrii Shrii Ánandamúrtiji is to keep watch on the purity of Guru's printed books.
13: If you are new to this network and you tried but are still not sure how to proceed then let us know. We are ready to help you.

Summary: The discourse "A Yogii Must Certainly Be A Theist" was given by Bábá in Hindi, in Patna. The Tiljala Publishers have printed that it was given in Bangla, in order to falsely make it appear that Bábá gave more discourses in Bengali than any other language. They translated the discourse twice: from Hindi to Bangla, and from Bangla into English—thus straying the English version far away from the Hindi original.

Part One of this letter ends here. In part two, I shall further explain the above points.


Namaskar,
Kanhay Choudhary

Footnotes.

Note 1: To download the actual sound file of the first two minutes of this discourse, click here.

Note 2. See below a scan of the Publishers Note where Tiljala Publishers claim that in this discourse given in Patna, Bábá spoke in Bengali.

Note 2. See below a scan of the Publishers Page inside the front cover of AV13, where the Tiljala Publishers claim that the whole AV13 book was given by Bábá in Bengali.

Download Bábá’s Voice: Example Of Concocted Things in SS19-7 (Part-2)

From: Bhakti <bhakti@ren....>
To: Ananda Marga Discourses <anandamargadiscourses@sunlink.net>
Subject: Download Bábá’s Voice: Example Of Concocted Things in SS19-7 (Part-2)
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 21:34:15 +0530

Bábá Náma Kevalam

Download Bábá’s Voice:
Example Of Concocted Things in SS19-7 (Part-2)

Namaskár brothers and sisters,

Thank you for your interest in this important topic that deals with the purity of Lord Shrii Shrii Ánandamúrtiji's printed books.

Preview:

a. This letter addresses a completely new point that what Bábá spoke they left out, and what He did not speak they concocted and added. (see note 1 & Details below.)
b. Wrong Done by T. Publications.

        1. Bábá's original discourse is in Hindi
        2. The Publishers claimed it was in Bangla
        3. Discourse ruined by unnecessary double translation.

c. TP is not giving you – the reader – Bábá's original words, rather they are giving you a tainted discourse in the book – SS19 chapter 7.
d. You have the right to have Guru’s original teaching, which you are not getting.
e. We have provided Bábá's original sound file as proof of the issue; see and listen for yourself; do not believe on others' hearsay. (see note 2)
f. Anyone can recognize Bábá is speaking Hindi. (see note 3)
g. This whole posting unmasks the falsehood of the Publishers Page. (see note 4)
h. As a result, SS19 chapter 7 has been ruined.
i. T. Publications is diverting the matter away from serious distortions in the above discourse.
j. The purpose of this letter is to make Bábá's printed discourses authentic and dogma-free. This is not a language issue this is an issue of authenticity.
k.  The duty of every disciple of Lord Shrii Shrii Ánandamúrtiji to keep their eye on the purity of Guru's printed books.

Detailed Main Section:

Bábá delivered a discourse titled Jinána aor Vikásha (Knowledge and Progress) originally in Hindi. An English translation of this discourse was first published in Subháśita Saḿgraha Part 19 with the title “Knowledge and Progress”. (see note 1) The most recent English version is found in the Electronic Edition 7.5, 2009 edition.

There are several distortions in this discourse “Knowledge and Progress”, which are highlighted in this series of postings; this posting is the fourth in the series. (see note 2)

Pivotal Example of Sadrsha Parińáma (homomorphic evolution) Omitted

In the original As-Is discourse, Bábá has introduced the concept of sadrsha parińáma and has also presented an example to clarify this concept. The Tiljala publishers have omitted Bábá's example and thereby made the description unclear.

Bábá Introduces Sadrsha Parińáma (homomorphic evolution)

Here below, a paragraph from the original As-Is discourse is presented, in which, Bábá has introduced the concept of sadrsha parińáma.

Original Hindi Section Introducing Sadrsha Parińáma
Presented From the Middle of the Discourse

Here below is a section of the discourse given by Lord Shrii Shrii Ánandamúrtiji. The As-Is discourse is carefully transcribed from the original Hindi discourse. The underlined portion in green was discarded by the Tiljala Publishers and has never been printed anywhere.

Color coding:
Green color means original “As Is” Hindi text. (The Tiljala Publishers distorted this text and introduced it with a brief summary, shown further below in red.)

Section from Middle of Original Hindi Discourse, Omitted by Tiljala Publishers, Begins Here.

तब ज्ञान, सही ज्ञान क्या है ? सही ज्ञान उसी वस्तु का ज्ञान है, जो देश-काल-पात्र के अनुसार परिवर्त्तित नहीं होता है | That doesn’t undergo any metamorphosis according to change in temporal, spatial, or personal factors | तो, इस तरह की वस्तु कौन है ?

अब देखो, इस दुनिया में हम लोग जो कुछ भी देखते हैं, उसमें cause and effect factor काम करता है | Causal factor है, उसके बाद ही effect factor है | Next phase में effect factor, causal factor बन जाता है | और, नया एक effect factor बनता है | फिर, next phase में वही effect factor, causal factor बन जाता है | Next phase effect factor बनता है—ऐसा ही चलता है | Mister A, उसका बेटा B | A causal factor, B effect factor | Next phase में B causal factor, उसका बेटा C effect factor | Next phase में C एक causal factor, उसका बेटा D effect factor | तो, एक phase में जो effect factor, next phase में वही causal factor—यही है नियम | तन्त्र में इसी को सदृशपरिणाम कहते हैं | सदृशपरिणाम | तो, जब तक हम time-space-persons के scope में हैं, तब तक cause and effect factor काम करेगा | और, cause and effect factor जहाँ काम करता है, वहीं समझ लेना चाहिए कि, वह वस्तु स्थाई नहीं है | उस वस्तु-सम्बन्धीय ज्ञान को लेकर, हम घमण्ड नहीं कर सकते हैं | हम नहीं कह सकते हैं कि—"हम जानते हैं" | वेद में कहा है—

नाहं मन्ये सुवेदेति नो न वेदेति वेद च ।
यो नस्तद्वेद तद्वेद नो न वेदेति वेद च ॥ २ ॥

Section from Middle of Original Hindi Discourse, Omitted by Tiljala Publishers, Ends Here.
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English translation of Original “As Is” Hindi starts here.

Translated  Section From Middle of Original Hindi Discourse

A literal English translation of the above text in Hindi (green colored text above), which Bábá directly spoke has been provided here for the convenience of non-Hindi speaking readers. The below translated text is again colored green to show that it corresponds to the green-colored Hindi text shown above.

Then what is true knowledge? True knowledge is the knowledge of that thing, which does not change relative to time, place, or person. That doesn’t undergo any metamorphosis according to change in temporal, spatial, or personal factors. Then what is this kind of thing? Now see, whatever we see in this world, in that the cause and effect factor works. Causal factor is there and after that only is the effect factor. In the next phase, the effect factor becomes causal factor. And, a new factor is made. In the next phase, that effect factor becomes causal factor. Next phase effect factor is made – this keeps on going. Say, Mister A’s son is B. A is causal factor and B is effect factor. In the next phase, B becomes causal factor and his [B’s] son C is effect factor.  In the next phase, C becomes causal factor and his [C’s] son D is effect factor. So, in one phase, whatever is effect factor, in the next phase that becomes causal factor – this is the rule. In Tantra, this is called as sadrsha parińáma (homomorphic evolution). So, as long as we are under the scope of time, place, and person, until then the cause and effect factors will work. And wherever, cause and effect factors work, we should understand, that thing is not permanent. We cannot be vane for having knowledge of such things [which are dependent upon time, place, and person].  We cannot say – “We know”.

English translation of Original “As Is” Hindi ends here
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Tiljala Publishers' distorted text begins here.

Published by Tiljala Group

Here is what the Tiljala Publishers printed in the latest Electronic Edition 7.5, 2009 edition, corresponding to the portion of discourse given above highlighted by the green color.

Color coding:  Red color is the corresponding paragraph taken from AMPS Tiljala published discourse “Knowledge and Progress”.

So what is true knowledge? True knowledge is the knowledge of that object which never undergoes any metamorphosis due to changes in time, space, and person. Everything in the world is causal; that is, the effect is followed by the cause, and the cause by the effect. It goes on like this. The effect of one phase becomes the cause of the next. This is known as sadrsha parińáma in Tantra. As long as we are under temporal, spatial and personal factors, the cause-and-effect factor will work. Where the cause-and-effect factor works, there only imperfection exists. One cannot be proud [of] the knowledge springing out of that source.

Tiljala Publishers' distorted text ends here.
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Scanning again over the green and red sections above, one can see in a graphic way how truncated the passage is that they printed, compared to what Bábá actually said. Bábá has provided far more detail in this section, than what the Publishers translated and printed.

Omission of Example in Guru’s Discourse

To make the matter worse, Tiljala group decided on their own that some of Bábá’s examples are useless. In the provided paragraph, the omitted example is underlined and is provided below again for reader’s convenience.

Say, Mister A’s son is B. A is causal factor and B is effect factor. In the next phase, B becomes causal factor and his [B’s] son C is effect factor.  In the next phase, C becomes causal factor and his [C’s] son D is effect factor. So, in one phase, whatever is effect factor, in the next phase that becomes causal factor – this is the rule.

The description of cause and effect factor has been given by Bábá using this simple to understand example.  Bábá’s example is self-explanatory that the effect B of a cause A becomes a cause (of C) in the next phase, i.e., son B of father A can later become father of C. Now let us see what Tiljala group has done to this simple to understand example. Firstly, they removed this example altogether. Secondly, they provided the following description in its place:

that is, the effect is followed by the cause, and the cause by the effect.

There are two parts of the above sentence. The first part is "the effect is followed by the cause", which means that effect comes before the cause. This is a strange expression, as an effect is the result of a cause and not the other way round. The second part "and the cause by the effect" is ambiguous as well. It seems that the 'cause' referred to in the second part is the same 'cause' alluded to in the first part due to the presence of the article 'the' before it.

The overall sense of what Bábá is really giving here is that an effect is the result of a cause; and at a later stage that effect can become the cause of some other effect. This is explained by Bábá using the example of Mr A, B, and C, where A is the father of B and B is the father of C. A is the cause of B and B is the cause of C. In other words, A (the cause) is followed by B (the effect). Likewise, B (presently a cause, earlier an effect) is followed by C (effect). The effect B in the first stage becomes the cause of C at a later stage.

However, in the published version, the suppression of Bábá's example and misrepresentation of His teaching has altered the core of His expression leading to many confusions and misunderstandings.

Distortion in Guru's Discourse is Not Acceptable

In this posting, a distortion in the form of sentence inserted by Tiljala publishers is brought to the notice of Ánanda Márgiis. Bábá’s all teachings are pointed and such a distortion is digressing the main idea of the teaching. This kind of dilution of such great teachings is certainly inappropriate.

As Ánanda Márgiis it is our duty to understand, appreciate, internalize, and propagate Bábá’s true teachings. In order to fulfill this duty, that Ánanda Márga scripture which we study and propagate, has to be proper. If our scripture itself is distorted, then what we learn and propagate will also be distorted. So when we see that our shástra is indeed full of errors introduced by our Publishers, then it becomes our duty to point this out and put  pressure to get our books fixed. This will prevent people from getting misguided and thereby true pracára of Bábá’s teachings can take place.

Sincerely,

Bhakti

Footnotes.

1. “Knowledge and Progress”, Subháśita Saḿgraha Part 19, Tiljala, 1992.

2.  Click here to download the passage from the discourse “Knowledge and Progress”, Subháśita Saḿgraha Part 19, Tiljala, 1992. This passage was omitted by the T. Publishers and rewritten in their own words, leaving out most of the content.

3. If you don't know Hindi, you can contact any private business translating agency also and confirm with them that in this sound file, Bábá is speaking Hindi and not Bengali.

4. On the Publishers Page it is written, “Translated from the Original Bengali”. That means the Publishers claim the discourse was originally given in Bengali. And it was translated into English using English as the source language. When actually the discourse was given in Hindi, so using Bengali as the source language is totally inappropriate and serves to distort the English translation.

5. Click below to review the prior postings in this series.

SS-19 DMC, MANY THINGS LEFT OUT: JUST SUMMARY

Wrongful Insertion & Shloka Left Out: SS-19 DMC Ltr #2

Listen to Bábá's Voice: Example Of Fake Things in SS19-7

Listen to Bábá's Voice: Example Of Fake Things in SS19-7

From: Bhakti <bhakti@ren....>
To: Ananda Marga Discourses <anandamargadiscourses@sunlink.net>
Subject: Listen to Bábá's Voice: Example Of Fake Things in SS19-7
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2014 13:45:23 +0530

BÁBÁ

Listen to Bábá's Voice:
Example Of Fake Things in SS19-7

Namaskár,

Thank you for your interest in this important topic that deals with the purity of Lord Shrii Shrii Ánandamúrtiji's printed books.

Preview:

This letter has a few very key points:

1. This letter addresses a completely new point from chapter 7 of Subháśita Saḿgraha Part 19, “Knowledge and Progress”. (see note 1) In the past you read about other issues (see note 2), but this matter presented below is entirely new.

2. To review, everyone is aware that Bábá delivered this discourse in Hindi, but for Bengalization purposes the Tiljala Publishers (TP) translated the original Hindi into Bengali and then from Bengali into English – thereby changing countless words and distorting the overall meaning. Please compare TP's printed version with Bábá's original Hindi.

3. A new sound file is provided with this posting. Please download it. (see note 3)

4. Play the sound file (see note 3), and you will see that the direct “As Is” transcription (below in green) is completely different from the false way the Tiljala Publishers translated it (below in red).

Note: For those not knowing Hindi: Bábá uses many English words and sentences in this passage. Listen to the sound file, and you will be able to pick out the English phrases and sentences as seen in the green “As Is” passage below. See how the TP have omitted all these words from their English translation (below in red).

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Original “As Is" Hindi Passage

Passage from Middle of Original Hindi Discourse, omitted by Tiljala Publishers, Begins Here.

Bábá Audio (time starts 00:01)

तब ज्ञान, सही ज्ञान क्या है ? सही ज्ञान उसी वस्तु का ज्ञान है, जो देश-काल-पात्र के अनुसार परिवर्त्तित नहीं होता है | That doesn’t undergo any metamorphosis according to change in temporal, spatial, or personal factors | तो, इस तरह की वस्तु कौन है ?

अब देखो, इस दुनिया में हम लोग जो कुछ भी देखते हैं, उसमें cause and effect factor काम करता है |Causal factor है, उसके बाद ही effect factor है | Next phase में effect factor, causal factor बन जाता है | और, नया एक effect factor बनता है | फिर, next phase में वही effect factor, causal factor बन जाता है | Next phase effect factor बनता है—ऐसा ही चलता है | Mister A, उसका बेटा B | A causal factor, B effect factor | Next phase में B causal factor, उसका बेटा C effect factor | Next phase में C एक causal factor, उसका बेटा D effect factor | तो, एक phase में जो effect factor, next phase में वही causal factor—यही है नियम | तन्त्र में इसी को सदृशपरिणाम कहते हैं | सदृशपरिणाम | तो, जब तक हम time-space-persons के scope में हैं, तब तक cause and effect factor काम करेगा | और, cause and effect factor जहाँ काम करता है, वहीं समझ लेना चाहिए कि, वह वस्तु स्थाई नहीं है | उस वस्तु-सम्बन्धीय ज्ञान को लेकर, हम घमण्ड नहीं कर सकते हैं | हम नहीं कह सकते हैं कि—"हम जानते हैं" | वेद में कहा है—

नाहं मन्ये सुवेदेति नो न वेदेति वेद च ।

यो नस्तद्वेद तद्वेद नो न वेदेति वेद च ॥ २ ॥

Bábá Audio (time ends 1:54)

Section from Middle of Original Hindi Discourse, Omitted by TP, Ends Here.

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5. Now see the red section below. This is the corresponding paragraph printed by the Tiljala Publishers.

Hindi speakers: Compare the green “As Is” with the red T. Publishers' paragraph. Note how most of the content has been removed in the red para published by Tiljala

English speakers: See all the English phrases and sentences which Bábá spoke in the green “As Is”passage. You won't find any of them in the red passage! That is because the Publishers deleted these sections from the published discourse. The terms Bábá spoke in English, are omitted in the English book.

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Distorted Text Published by Tiljala Group

TPs' distorted text begins here.

Here below in red is what the TP printed. (It corresponds to the portion of the discourse given above highlighted by the green color. The below red passage is taken from the Tiljala published discourse “Knowledge and Progress”, SS19, ch7, p. 65. Passage from Electronic Edition 7.5, 2009 edition)

So what is true knowledge? True knowledge is the knowledge of that object which never undergoes any metamorphosis due to changes in time, space, and person. Everything in the world is causal; that is, the effect is followed by the cause, and the cause by the effect. It goes on like this. The effect of one phase becomes the cause of the next. This is known as sadrsha parińáma in Tantra. As long as we are under temporal, spatial and personal factors, the cause-and-effect factor will work. Where the cause-and-effect factor works, there only imperfection exists. One cannot be proud [of] the knowledge springing out of that source.

TP's distorted text ends here.

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7. This letter gives proof of how the English translation was ruined. For Bengalization purposes the Tiljala Publishers translated Bábá's original Hindi discourse into Bengali and then from Bengali into English – thereby changing countless words and distorting the overall meaning. This is not an ordinary mistake but a blunder.

8. When Márgiis asked TP, “Why did these things happen?”, then TP gave the ready-made reply that they don't have the sound file, so it was taken from an old magazine article. But what they say is a lie-- their office is in disarray and they don't have any database to keep track of what sound files they have. The sound files are there, but they are not documented. So how can they know what they have? The Bengali language sound files are very well documented. But other languages—English and Hindi—not so. The solution is that they should allow a team of selected Márgiis to go and check out their storage and their office. And those Márgiis will make an inventory of everything kept there, and it will be proved that the sound file is there.

9. If you are new to this network and you tried but are still not sure how to proceed then let us know. We will help you.

10. The purpose of this letter is to make Bábá's printed discourses authentic and dogma-free. This is not a language issue this is an issue of authenticity. The duty of every disciple of Lord Shrii Shrii Ánandamúrtiji is to keep eye on the purity of Guru's printed books.

This concludes the preview of this matter. The full main posting presenting these issues will be posted tomorrow.


Namaskar,

Bhakti


Footnotes.

1. “Knowledge and Progress”, Subháśita Saḿgraha Part 19, Tiljala, 1992.

2. Click here to review the first, and click here to review the second, posting in this series.

3. Click here to download the passage from the discourse “Knowledge and Progress”, Subháśita Saḿgraha Part 19, Tiljala, 1992. This passage was omitted by the T. Publishers and rewritten in their own words, leaving out most of the content.

Addendum Sound File—"Listen to Bábá's Voice: Example Of Fake Things in SS19-7"

Lord Shrii Shrii Ánandamúrti has given the discourse “Knowledge and Progress” in Hindi, in Patna on 20th November 1966. Here below is a two-minute sound file from the middle of the discourse, where He is explaining about cause and effect. Click on the link below to download the sound file. It may also be listened to here at your option.

Click Here To Download Sound File Of Baba's Discourse


To see the first post written about this clip, click here. And to see the second post written about this clip, click here.

List of Lackeys of Dada S Who Ruined AV13: Example Of Concocted Things in AV13, Part 4

From: Smita Ghosal <smita.ghosal@bengalcom...>

To: Ananda Marga Discourses <anandamargadiscourses@sunlink.net>

Subject: List of Lackeys of Dada S Who Ruined AV13

Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 17:23:48 +0530

Bábá

List of Lackeys of Dada S Who Ruined AV13:

Example Of Concocted Things in AV13, Part 4

Namaskar,

The brown color is from the previous posting. And the black color is the fresh writing in which I have added my thoughts. Kindly go through step by step, and the matter will be clear. Please excuse me if you feel any inconvenience.

Preview

a. This letter gives the list of those who are involved in the ruining of the herein mentioned discourse. And much more.

b. Wrong Done by Tiljala Publications:

1. Bábá's original discourse V13-Ch1, Infinite Happiness in Parama Puruśa Alone, is in Hindi
   
2. The Publishers claimed it was in Bangla
   
3. Discourse ruined by unnecessary double translation.
   

c. They are not giving you Bábá's original words, rather they are giving you a tainted discourse in the published book.

d. You have the right to have Guru's original teaching, which you are not getting.

e. We have provided Bábá's original sound file on 27 March 2014 as proof of the issue; see and listen for yourself; do not believe on other's hearsay. (See Note 1) (If you have downloaded this earlier fine, otherwise be sure to download the sound file now. )

f. Anyone can recognize Bábá is speaking Hindi.


g. There is grave deception in the Publishers Note AV13-14 regarding this discourse.


h. Tiljala Publications is diverting the matter away from serious distortions in the above discourse.

i. The diversionary tactics utilized by TP are as serious a matter as the deception itself.

j. The purpose of this letter is to make Bábá's printed discourses authentic and dogma-free. This is not a language issue this is an issue of authenticity. The duty of every disciple of Lord Shrii Shrii Ánandamúrtiji to keep eye on the purity of Guru's printed books.

Digest

Dirty Tactics to Sidetrack From Burning Issue

I. T. Publications' key persons are accusing that writers to this network who point out the distortions in published discourses, should themselves publish the books. When confronted with the fact that they have not done their job, they accuse that those pointing them out should do the job themselves.

II. That is like when crime is rampant in a neighborhood and the community residents rightly complain that the lazy police are not doing their job, then the police retort that if the residents don't like the quality of their work, they should catch the thieves themselves instead of complaining.

III. Or seeing a judge in the court issue very biased verdicts, the public complains about this to the state judiciary board. Hearing the public complaints, the judge retorts that if the public doesn't like his verdicts, they should issue better verdicts themselves instead of complaining.

IV. But such responses on the part of the police and the judge are diversionary tactics. It is the duty of the police to catch thieves and of the judge to issue verdicts. The public cannot do these jobs. If those qualified and employed to do these jobs do not carry out their duty, and when confronted with the fact accuse that the public should do it, then that diverts the matter away from the fact of their own failure.

V. Someone from Publications Department, saw the recent posting pointing out that the discourse Infinite Happiness in Parama Puruśa Alone was actually given in Hindi but claimed by TP as given in Bangla and translated from Bangla into English rather than from Hindi into English. He wrote in response that rather than point such things out, those Márgiis writing should instead publish the discourses themselves.

VI. This is nothing but a diversionary tactic. It is the duty of Publications Department to publish the discourse, not the duty of Márgiis. If TP publishes the discourse improperly, then when this is pointed out they should republish the discourse in a proper way without distortion. If in lieu of this they reply that “Márgiis should publish the book instead of complaining”, then this can only be described as diversionary tactics. It is the duty of TP to publish books, and when their work is improper, they should correct the mistake and redo it in a proper way.

VII. Two accusations are levied by Tiljala Publications against Márgiis. TP accuses that:

1. Those who are writing postings pointing out TP for not publishing properly, are doing wrong. This is Márgiis' first mistake.

2. Márgiis who are pointing out TP should publish the books themselves. They are not doing so, and this is their second mistake.

On the basis of these two accusations, Tiljala Publications says that Márgiis are guilty and not TP themselves.

VIII. Sarvátmánandji ordered his stooges to go and spread the above two accusations everywhere, and by this to divert the minds of Márgiis away from the actual distortions committed by Publications. And that's what one stooge did.

IX. One lackey of Dada Sarvátmánanda expressed that pointing out the defects in published books is “destructive work”. He further expressed that publishing books is “constructive work”. So he wrote that instead of doing “destructive work” i.e. pointing out the distortions in Bábá’s discourses caused by TP, Márgiis pointing out the distortions should instead do “constructive work” i.e. publish the discourses themselves.

X. Whereas in reality it is the job of Publications to do the “constructive work” of publishing books, and it is the job of Márgiis to do the “constructive work” of pointing out if the publication is poor or distorted. Just as it is the duty of the public to complain if the public water supply is poor, and not to provide the water themselves; it is the job of the public to complain to the government if the roads are poor, and not to start building the roads themselves.

XI. All of these are merely political maneuvers and diversionary tactics designed to sidetrack Márgiis from the main issue—that TP is distorting Bábá’s discourses.

Detailed Main Section:

The work of raising consciousness about the poor state of our printed books is going on strongly. And Márgiis all over the globe are taking interest. The only persons not participating and cooperating, are those in publications department itself. It is a historical fact that those guilty of knowingly doing harm to others in the society never like to admit it, and all too often adopt a strategy of diverting our attention away from what negative acts they have done.

Examples of Diversionary Trickery: Robbery

There are innumerable examples in the society of this type of devilish trickery:

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“Local law enforcement officials released details on Tuesday regarding a bomb threat made to Rhea Medical Center earlier this month that they believe was made to divert attention from a robbery at Mega Pawn in Dayton.”

“Officials with both the Dayton Police Department [DPD] and Rhea County Sheriff’s Department [RCSD] said they believe the hospital was in no real danger when a March 8 bomb threat was made and investigated.”

“It was just a diversion, I believe,” RCSD Chief Deputy John Argo said.

“At around 4:30 a.m. on March 8 and near the same time the bomb threat was made to the hospital, DPD Sgt. Jesse Dotson said the burglar alarm at Mega Pawn was activated and police responded to the scene.”

“While investigating the scene, an assortment of jewelry was found lying on the floor. According to an incident report on file at the DPD, Mega Pawn employees could not place a dollar amount on how much jewelry was taken.” (courtesy RHN)
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Diversionary Tactics on International Stage

Here is another example, occurring on the international stage:

“A diversionary foreign policy, or a diversionary war, is an International Relations term that identifies a war instigated by a country’s leader in order to distract its population from their own domestic strife. The concept stems from the Diversionary War Theory, which states that leaders who are threatened by domestic turmoil occasionally initiate an international conflict in order to shift the nation’s attention away from internal troubles. As a result, this external threat would counter the domestic strife and ensure the leader’s position in power. Essentially, a diversionary use of force is a manipulation of the Rally Round the Flag Syndrome effect, causing an increase of national fervor from the general public…[many] United States presidents and their disputed culpability partaking in diversionary foreign policy.” (courtesy of WP)

Stooges are Busy in Confusing Márgiis

About Distortion in AM Books

When there is nothing to be said in defense of a negative act, then hiding it is the most effective approach. Distract the public mind away from the event by keeping people involved in other matters.

That is just what we see today in our Ánanda Márgii society: Those distorting Bábá's discourses will always seek to divert our attention away from what negative acts they have done. Faced with the exposure of sins they cannot deny, Publications Department dadas and those working with them make every effort to divert Márgiis' attention away from them in other directions. Various public and private letters they have written, making use of these diversionary tactics.

Sarvátmánandji and his stooges (note 2) always fail to respond to the matters raised in the postings, and instead launch a flood of meaningless banter to change the subject and divert our attention. But when faced with such tactics, we should stand our ground and not allow the subject to be changed; instead we should insist that they reply to the matters raised. “Brother, do not change the subject. Reply to the matters raised in the posting." This should be our reply when they send such meaningless mail.

Special Team of Lackeys/Stooges/Minions/Pawns

Leads Attack of Diversion

It is a good thing that Márgiis are asking questions to the Publishers as to why the distortions occurred.

Sarvátmánandji instead of giving reply, has given a new work to his stooges—that they should divert the Márgiis. Indeed, Sarvátmánandji by way of his stooges is trying to divert Márgiis in the ways indicated above.

Now the question is, who could be the stooges of Sarvátmánandji? The answer is not complex. Those who were on the team working to ruin AV13-14—one or some or all among them may be involved in this dirty work. Such persons do not want Márgiis to ask questions about the book or its distortions.

Here follows a list of those lackeys of Dada Sarvátmánanda, who were mentioned by the Publishers in AV13-14, as having helped with production of the book:

Dr. Aditya Kumar Mohanty

Ácárya Priyashivananda Avadhúta

Sister Malati

Táraka Ghista

Shantanu Roy

Madhava Basak

Kirit Dave

Avadhútiká Ánanda Jayatii Ácárya

If any of the persons whose names are on the above-mentioned list are not Sarvátmánandji’s stooges, they should come forward and tell that they are not involved in diverting Márgiis. Then we will consider their statement.

Those who want to see the scan of what T. Publications has printed in AV13-14 about those involved in this scam of distortion, they should see footnote 2 below.

On these matters I am awaiting your valuable suggestions and thoughts.

Namaskar,

Smitá Ghosal

Footnotes.

Note 1. To download or play the actual sound file of the first three minutes of this discourse, click here. By this sound file it is obvious that the discourse is given by Baba in Hindi, and not in Bengali.

Note 2. To see the scan of the Acknowledgements Page where the T Publishers have enlisted all the stooges who helped them with (the ruination of) AV13&14, click here.

Note 2. Story of Dead Child in the Box

It is like a thief who stole a box off a train. In the process of escaping with the box he got caught by the police. Upon their questioning he insisted it was his own box. The police proceeded to open the box and found inside the dead body of a murdered child. So now the thief has trapped himself in a murder. The police had asked him if the box was his and he swore it was. Now he is trapped.

একটা চোর ৰাক্স চুরি করল চলা ত্রেন থেকে | পলাযনের সময পুলিসে ধোরা পড়ল | তাদের প্রশ্নের উত্তরে ৰোলল এই ৰাক্স তো আমার | পুলিশ ৰাক্সটা খুলে দেখল একটি খুন করা ছোট শিশুর লাশ ভিতোরে আছে | পুলিস ওকে জিজ্ঞাস করেছিল এই ৰাক্সটা কি তোমারে ? আরে ও ৰোলেছিল হ্যাঁ | এখন ও ফাঁদে পড়ল |

This is the situation of EC and H group. With eyes closed, they are printing all the books of B group. When they will wake up, no one knows. But one thing is true, that these people are taking upon themselves full responsibility for the mistakes of the B group Publishers by putting their own name on the same publications. In a way they are involving themselves in the same sin. Otherwise, why haven’t they or why don’t they transcribe the discourse from the original discourse and print it anew on their own?

Having claimed credit as the publisher, they are now getting caught red-handed as the creators of distortion-filled discourses.

Example Of Concocted Things in AV13, Part 3

From: Smita Ghosal <smita.ghosal@bengalcom...>

To: Ananda Marga Discourses <anandamargadiscourses@sunlink.net>

Subject: Example Of Concocted Things in AV13, Part 3

Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 19:49:40 +0530

Bábá

Example Of Concocted Things in AV13, Part 3

Diversionary Tactics of Tiljala Group

Respected Márgii Brothers and Sisters,

Namaskar

Preview

a. This letter addresses a completely new point, that important persons from Tiljala Publications department use diversionary tactics to keep Márgiis from addressing the serious scriptural distortions. 

b. Wrong Done by T. Publications.

1. Bábá's original discourse V13-Ch1, Infinite Happiness in Parama Puruśa Alone, is in Hindi
   
2. The Publishers claimed it was in Bangla
   
3. Discourse ruined by unnecessary double translation.
   

c. They are not giving you Bábá's original words, rather they are giving you a tainted discourse in the published book.

d. You have the right to have Guru's original teaching, which you are not getting.

e. We have provided Bábá's original sound file as proof of the issue; see and listen for yourself; do not believe on other's hearsay. (See Note 1)

f. Anyone can recognize Bábá is speaking Hindi.


g. There is grave deception in the Publishers Note AV13-14 regarding this discourse.


h. T. Publications is diverting the matter away from serious distortions in the above discourse.

i. The diversionary tactics utilized by TP are as serious a matter as the deception itself.

Digest

Dirty Tactics to Sidetrack From Burning Issue

I. T. Publications' key persons are accusing that writers to this network who point out the distortions in published discourses, should themselves publish the books. When confronted with the fact that they have not done their job, they accuse that those pointing them out should do the job themselves.

II. That is like when crime is rampant in a neighborhood and the community residents rightly complain that the lazy police are not doing their job, then the police retort that if the residents don't like the quality of their work, they should catch the thieves themselves instead of complaining.

III. Or seeing a judge in the court issue very biased verdicts, the public complains about this to the state judiciary board. Hearing the public complaints, the judge retorts that if the public doesn't like his verdicts, they should issue better verdicts themselves instead of complaining.

IV. But such responses on the part of the police and the judge are diversionary tactics. It is the duty of the police to catch thieves and of the judge to issue verdicts. The public cannot do these jobs. If those qualified and employed to do these jobs do not carry out their duty, and when confronted with the fact accuse that the public should do it, then that diverts the matter away from the fact of their own failure.

V. Someone from Publications Department, saw the recent posting pointing out that the discourse Infinite Happiness in Parama Puruśa Alone was actually given in Hindi but claimed by TP as given in Bangla and translated from Bangla into English rather than from Hindi into English. He wrote in response that rather than point such things out, those Márgiis writing should instead publish the discourses themselves.

VI. This is nothing but a diversionary tactic. It is the duty of Publications Department to publish the discourse, not the duty of Márgiis. If TP publishes the discourse improperly, then when this is pointed out they should republish the discourse in a proper way without distortion. If in lieu of this they reply that “Márgiis should publish the book instead of complaining”, then this can only be described as diversionary tactics. It is the duty of TP to publish books, and when their work is improper, they should correct the mistake and redo it in a proper way.

VII. Two accusations are levied by TP against Márgiis. TP accuses that:

1. Those who are writing postings pointing out TP for not publishing properly, are doing wrong. This is their first mistake.

2. Márgiis who are pointing out TP should publish the books themselves. They are not doing so, and this is their second mistake.

On the basis of these two accusations, TP says that Márgiis are guilty and not TP themselves.

VIII. Sarvátmánandji ordered his stooges to go and spread the above two accusations everywhere, and by this to divert the minds of Márgiis away from the actual distortions committed by Publications. And that's what one stooge did.

Detailed Main Section

Wrongdoers Always Use Diversion Tactics

Bábá has beautifully described this phenomenon in a passage from Human Society part 2:

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"When a group of vipras vociferously demanded an investigation into the mysterious death of Shyamaprasad Mukherjee, another group of vipras immediately diverted their steam by increasing the tram fares in Calcutta and at the same time starting a movement to oppose the increase. Because of this, those typical vaeshyas who were directly or indirectly responsible for Shyamaprasad's death escaped punishment."

"The discriminatory measures adopted by employers or states ruled by vaeshyas to suppress labour agitations are generally known to every educated person. To disrupt the plans and intellectual movements of one group of vipras, a second group of vipras are appointed as spies or informers. Such spies or informers do not work out of ideological inspiration but in order to fill their stomachs. They are merely paid servants of the vaeshyas." (Human Society Part 2 )

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Here Bábá has explained how a group of clever vipras guilty of causing Shyamaprasad's death escaped punishment by diverting the public attention instead toward a fight over the raising of tram fares. The public, embroiled in the fabricated siege over tram fares, forgot about the death of Shyamaprasad.

Stooges are Busy in Confusing Márgiis

About Distortion in AM Books

When there is nothing to be said in defense of a negative act, then hiding it is the most effective approach. Distract the public mind away from the event by keeping people involved in other matters.

That is just what we see today in our Ánanda Márgii society: Those distorting Bábá's discourses will always seek to divert our attention away from what negative acts they have done. Faced with the exposure of sins they cannot deny, Publications Department dadas and those working with them make every effort to divert Márgiis' attention away from them in other directions. Various public and private letters they have written, making use of these diversionary tactics.

Sarvátmánandji and his stooges (note 2) always fail to respond to the matters raised in the postings, and instead launch a flood of meaningless banter to change the subject and divert our attention. But when faced with such tactics, we should stand our ground and not allow the subject to be changed; instead we should insist that they reply to the matters raised. “Brother, do not change the subject. Reply to the matters raised in the posting." This should be our reply when they send such meaningless mail.

Please write your thought about how this problem could be resolved.

Namaskar,

Smitá Ghosal

Footnotes.

Note 1. To download or play the actual sound file of the first three minutes of this discourse, click here. By this sound file it is obvious that the discourse is given by Baba in Hindi, and not in Bengali.

Note 2. To see the scan of the Acknowledgements Page where the T Publishers have enlisted all the stooges who helped them with (the ruination of) AV13&14, click here.