To: Ananda Marga Discourses <anandamargadiscourses@sunlink.net>
Subject: Discourse distortion: Hindu dogma in AM book
Date: 08 Mar 2015 07:22:39
Baba
Discourse distortion: Hindu dogma in AM book
Namaskar,
Please pay attention to the following two quotes - one highlighted in yellow and one in green. These quotes are from our Ananda Marga books, but, unfortunately, the yellow quote contradicts the green quote, and vice-versa.
According to Ananda Marga philosophy there are three worlds / lokas. These three lokas are purely of the mind; they are not something external.
In contrast, Hindu mythology preaches the existence of three other worlds: heaven, earth, and the underworld. Hindu believers hold that humans live on earth; devatas (gods) live in space, and demons live beneath the the bottom of the ocean in the underworld.
Our Ananda Marga philosophy does not accept this Hindu mythological dogma. But our Tiljala publishers have placed this exact Hindu dogma in our Ananda Marga books.
The overall idea of the yellow quote is that the three worlds of triloka are: heaven, earth, and the underworld. This is the gross error that has been made. See for yourself by reading the below yellow line.
QUOTE #1: Ananda Marga philosophy says, "The weapon which pierces sinners from three sides is called trishúla. In Shiva’s hand there was a trishúla (so He is called shúlapáńi) to strike terror in the hearts of the sinners so that they might desist from their sins and be forced to let honest people live in peace. And to control the sinners and bind them in tight bondages, Shiva held in His hand a lathi [staff] and a rope. He is controlling the psychic realm which sustains and nourishes the entire life-flow of heaven, earth and underworld – so He is called Triloka-nátha [the Lord of the Three Worlds]. And in this quinquelemental world, He clearly understands the nature and behaviour of each and every entity, so He is called Bhútanátha [the Lord of All Created Beings]." (1)
That concludes the yellow quote; now see the green quote.
The overall idea of the green quote is that the mind has three chambers (a) conscious, (b) subconscious, and (c) causal / unconscious. The Sanskrit word for three is “tri.” When the three minds are combined then it is known as triloka. This is the overall idea of the quote highlighted below in green.
QUOTE #2: Ananda Marga philosophy says, "Causal mind means mind in seed form, subconscious mind [subtle mind] means mind in sprout form, and conscious mind [crude mind] means mind in fully expressed form. In causal mind also there are possibilities of vibration. Causal mind is a part of mind but turiiya [a stage of purely spiritual realization] is not a part of mind. The combined name of these three states of cosmic mind – causal, subconscious and conscious – is triloka."(2)
That concludes the green quote. Now see the conclusion.
Conclusion
[A] The quote - highlighted above in yellow - says that triloka means: (a) heaven, (b) earth, and (c) underworld. Unfortunately they accepted and adhered to Hindu dogma. This is not our Ananda Marga ideal.
[B] The quote - highlighted above in green - says that triloka means: (a) conscious mind, (b) subconscious mind , and (c) causal / unconscious mind. This is correct meaning according to Ananda Marga philosophy.
[C] Hence, the above yellow and green quotes contradict each other. The yellow one preaches the ways of Hindu dogma and the green quote adheres to the dharma of Ananda Marga.
Every margii knows that Lord Shrii Shrii Anandamurtiji never speaks anything that is contradictory.
Bear in mind, our Ananda Marga books are sold openly in the public market; when non-margiis read this blunder they will not have great respect for Shrii Shrii Anandamurtiji. That is unfortunate and disastrous.
Namaskar,
at His lotus feet,
Shephali Dutta'
Note 1: The two worst things to ruin the author’s philosophical teachings
#1: Spoil that chapter or book by making it self-contradictory or aligning it with dogma;
#2: When due to sloppiness such a problem exists, readers will think the author does not know the subject matter.
These fatal flaws in our Ananda Marga literature are the direct result of the sloppiness and carelessness of Tiljala publications Dept. They are inexcusable. By these blunders, non-margii readers not will not have great respect for the author - Shrii Shrii Anandamurtiji..
Note 2: If you do not have the book or discourse...
If you do not have this book or discourses related with this topic then kindly write us and we will provide the related chapter(s) to you. Also, if any aspect of this topic is unclear, then please write us.
Note 3: No such thing as underworld
In Ananda Marga teaching do not support the existence of any type of underworld, i.e. a land or place that is under the bottom of the ocean. There may be some coal mines or other anthropological digging sites. But one cannot say that those places are the second loka.
If in your mind there is any doubt about the meaning of triloka, then please read Guru’s below teachings. Then any confusion will vanish.
“Now, what's the meaning of triloka, tribhuvana ? You have got a physical body made of so many elements, so many compounds. And we say it is [the] quinquelemental universe, composed of five fundamental factors...”
“And you exist in this realm of physicalities. This is one bhuvana. And, the subtler portion of the physical structure of living beings, when that subtler portion gets powdered down, is metamorphosed into ectoplasm, it becomes the mind. You have got a mind. And as all of you know, you are not the mind. You are the owner of the mind. So, your second existence is the mental world. Second world…”
“Your "I" is concentrated round your ego. And that pinnacled ego touches the astral stratum. So, that astral stratum is the third world. One physical world, another mental world, and another that subtle astral world. So, there are three worlds.” (3)
References
1. Namah Shiváya Shántáya, Disc: 20
2. AV-9, Vasu and Vásudeva, 2 April 1979, Patna
3. Ananda Vacanamrtam - 2
