Proof: Distortion by TP in AV-12 Ch-37

Bábá

Distortion by TP in AV-12 Ch-37

Who is going to issue the priest a ticket for hell

This letter is only for those who have reverence for Lord Shrii Shrii Ánandamúrti’s teachings and want to protect them.

Namaskar,

The discourse, ‘Everything Comes From Something’ given by Bábá 2 June 1979 evening, in Lyon, France, has been published three times. The third time, in 2008, was as part of the new Ananda Vacanamrtam 11 & 12. In this volume our Tiljala Publishers (TP) announced in the Publishers Note that they had re-transcribed the discourse from the original audio tape, to ensure accuracy and authenticity. Nonetheless, at the culmination of the discourse they repeated the very same critical mistake, which they had made in the AV12 1980 publication. This mistake is a mistake which leads the discourse against Ananda Marga ideology itself, and is pointed out in the following lines.

In this letter, Green is True, Yellow is False 

Near the end of the discourse,  Bábá speaks the main point-- “who is going to issue him [Christian priest] with a ticket for hell?” (1)

Due to distortion by TP, the original above green words have been twisted in the latest AV12 publication. In the process, these words became not only useless, but harmful. Our TP has printed in AV12-- “who is going to issue you [sadhaka] a ticket to hell?” (2)

Religious priests--to “hell”

Comment: Bábá is striking on religious dogma and exposing the exploitation carried out by religious priests. Bábá warns that the Christian priest who claims to have the authority to give or not give people a pass to heaven, is due to this adharmic work creating negative samskara. Bábá is giving a hint that because the priests of various religions impose fear complex in the minds of their followers, and exploit them economically, so due to this religious exploitation, these priests will suffer the consequences and face negative samskara that is equivalent to hell. That’s why Bábá is telling-- “who is going to issue him [Christian priest] with a ticket for hell?” (1)

Backbone of the discourse destroyed

But due to distortion, TP ruined entire teaching. Rather the way TP has worded the sentence, it is now an attack on the religious followers rather than on the clergy-- TP wants to send these simple followers to hell. So, Bábá is talking about how the priest is going to go to hell. And TP is saying the believers are going to go to hell. In this way, this vital section got completely destroyed. And this para is the culmination of this entire discourse; by this, the spirit of the entire discourse is lost. The way the discourse is printed, it is doing harm to people by enforcing negative religious dogma. It is sad.

Example 1-- As-Is version transcribed from audio

The following section is 100% correct. What is printed here, is exactly what Bábá spoke. These original words of Bábá have been transcribed from the audio file of Bábá's discourse.

Bábá says--

“And in personal life you should move along the path of righteousness, towards the Supreme Goal, towards your Supreme Father. You all belong to the noble family because your father is the Supreme Father. Nobody is unimportant, nobody is insignificant.”

“And you should never think that, “Oh, because the priest didn’t issue any ticket for heaven, that's why I won’t be able to go to the heaven.” No, no, no, no, no don’t think like that. The priest has got no right to issue a ticket of heaven, and who is going to issue him with a ticket for hell?” (1)

[laughter]

“No, no, no, no, no your good actions will bring you closer to the Parama Puruśa, and finally you will be one with Him by dint of your sadhana, by dint of your occult practice.”

Example 2-- below is the wrong version, published by TP

Following is the version printed by our Tiljala Publishers--

TP Printed in AV12, Ch-37, p.214: “And in personal life you should move along the path of righteousness, towards the Supreme Goal, towards your Supreme Father. Nobody is unimportant, nobody is insignificant. You all belong to the noble family because your father is the Supreme Father. Nobody is unimportant, nobody is insignificant.”

“And you should never think, “Oh, because the priest didn’t issue me any ticket for heaven, I won’t be able to go to heaven.” No, no, no, don’t say that. The priest has no right to issue you a ticket, and who is going to issue you a ticket to hell? No, no, no, your good actions will bring you closer to Parama Puruśa, and finally you will become one with Him by dint of your sadhana, by dint of your occult practice.”

“And just to concentrate your mind during your occult practice, you must dance and sing kiirtana, because kiirtana is the best purifying agent. It purifies the mind, and its meaning is also very good. Its meaning is, “O Father, I am to take your name and your name only.” Bábá means “the nearest and dearest one”. (2)

There are also a few other mistakes in these lines, which will be addressed in a later posting.

Namaskar,

In service to Gurudeva,

Shanti

Sage Moreau

Note 1. To Download Sound file

To download the sound file on this issue, click here--

http://anandamargadiscourses.blogspot.com/2016/10/sound-file-ticket-to-hell.html

Note 2: Here below is a scan of the actual page published by TP, containing the distorted passage. This scan is from Ánanda Vacanámtram part 11 & 12, 2008. p.214

In this discourse ‘Everything Comes From Something’ given by Bábá 2 June 1979 evening, in Lyon, France, Bábá explained that the priests who claim to be able to authorize or block entry to the so-called heaven, will themselves suffer a hellish saḿskára for this adharmic work. But our Tiljala Publishers unfortunately twisted and distorted this passage as shown below in the section marked with a red mark--

If you cannot view the above scan, then to view a scan of the distorted page published by TP, click here--

http://anandamargadiscourses.blogspot.com/2016/10/distortion-in-av12-who-is-going-to.html

Note 3. Below is a scan of the Publisher’s Note from Ánanda Vacanámtram Part 11 & 12, published by our Tiljala Publishers. In this below note, TP wrote that to improve on the original version of this discourse printed in 1979 and 1980, they have re-transcribed the discourse from tape. So by this it is clear that (1) TP has the recording of the discourse, and (2) TP has listened again to the discourse and re-transcribed it for this 2008 publication.

Please download the sound file in Note 1 above, and you will see for yourself what words Baba has spoken in this passage. Despite re-transcribing the discourse, our Tiljala Publishers unfortunately could not catch the true words Baba used. Furthermore, despite Margiis’ pointing out this distortion in the book many times over the past eight years, TP could not listen to this recording again and issue an errata page for the serious distortion which they have printed.

Below follows the TP Publisher’s Note about this discourse--

Note 4. Story of Dead Child in the Box

It is like a thief who stole a box off a train. In the process of escaping with the box he got caught by the police. Upon their questioning he insisted it was his own box. The police proceeded to open the box and found inside the dead body of a murdered child. So now the thief has trapped himself in a murder. The police had asked him if the box was his and he swore it was. Now he is trapped.

একটা চোর ৰাক্স চুরি করল চলা ত্রেন থেকে | পলাযনের সময পুলিসে ধোরা পড়ল | তাদের প্রশ্নের উত্তরে ৰোলল এই ৰাক্স তো আমার | পুলিশ ৰাক্সটা খুলে দেখল একটি খুন করা ছোট শিশুর লাশ ভিতোরে আছে | পুলিস ওকে জিজ্ঞাস করেছিল এই ৰাক্সটা কি তোমারে ? আরে ও ৰোলেছিল হ্যাঁ | এখন ও ফাঁদে পড়ল |

This is the situation of EC and H group. With eyes closed, they are printing all the books of B group. When they will wake up, no one knows. But one thing is true, that these people are taking upon themselves full responsibility for the mistakes of the B group Publishers by putting their own name on the same publications. In a way they are involving themselves in the same sin. Otherwise, why haven’t they or why don’t they transcribe the discourse from the original discourse and print it anew on their own?

Having claimed credit as the publisher, they are now getting caught red-handed as the creators of distortion-filled discourses.

Note: In order to make Baba’s books pristine, please forward this posting to the respected Tiljala Publications Secretary, dada Mantreshwarananda ji <Mantreshwarananda@hotmail.com>, and to respected dada Acyutananda ji, <acyutananda1@gmail.com>.

References

1.  As-Is version, “Everything Comes From Something”, Lyon, France, 2 June 1979 evening.

2. Tiljala Publications, "Everything Comes From Something", Lyon, France, 2 June 1979, Ánanda Vacanámtram part 11 & 12, 2008.

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Distortion in AV12: Who is going to issue 'you' a ticket for hell

Distortion in AV12: 

Who is going to issue 'you' a ticket for hell

In the discourse ‘Everything Comes From Something’ given by Bábá 2 June 1979 evening, in Lyon, France, Bábá explained that the priests who claim to be able to authorize or block entry to the so-called heaven, will themselves suffer a hellish saḿskára for this adharmic work. But our Tiljala Publishers unfortunately twisted and distorted this passage as shown below in the section marked with a red mark--







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Sound File: Ticket to Hell

Sound File: Ticket to Hell

Click on the below to download the sound file "1979-06-02 Lyon "Everything Comes From Something" - 'Ticket for Hell' clip.mp3". 

This is the passage in which Bábá is striking on the religious dogma that priests have the power to authorize or block a person's entry to so-called heaven. Our Tiljala Publishers unfortunately, utterly distorted this passage in their 2008 Ánanda Vacanámtram part 11 & 12. See the related posting on this matter here.

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The Title of the discourse is "Everything Comes From Something."

AM book distortion: section on women is deleted

BÁBÁ

AM book distortion: section on women is deleted

Namaskár,

The below excerpt on women’s rights is missing from the printed English and Bengali versions of Bábá's discourse, "Liberation of Intellect". The discourse was originally given by Bábá in Hindi. And the original Hindi of the missing section is given below in English translation. So here follows this important Ananda Marga book distortion in which the section on women has been deleted.

Translated from the original Hindi "Liberation of Intellect" (Patna, 26th January 1980)--

English translation of the deleted section of the discourse

(Note: The following section, highlighted in yellow, is an informal translation of the missing section of "Liberation of Intellect" [Patna, 26th January 1980]. This section on women has been deleted by our Tiljala Publications (TP) department, and it continues to be missing from our English Ananda Marga books even today.)

The original Hindi of the below has been transcribed from the audio file of Bábá's discourse.

Bábá says in the "As Is" discourse--

"There are also a few "great personalities" (maha'purus') - we call them "great personalities" because it would not be proper to use any other term - who say that in the social sphere one woman does not hold the value of an entire man. Rather, three women equal one man. What an absurd notion! Those who are the followers of such "great personalities", their own intellectual growth will be impeded. They will not be able to tolerate even, any rational ideas. They will keep away from and fear all rational ideas which bring the natural growth and development of mind. In this very way, dogma has captured their minds.”

“Some people also say that-- ‘In religion, there is no place for the intellect’. That is, where people are not intelligent, where they are not rational, where they are fools, in that very state they are liable to get caught in the clutches of religion.”

“The subject of today's discourse is, ‘The liberation of intellect’. Indeed, we have to utilize our intellect in all spheres of life. And because of this, we want to increase our intellect as much as possible. Further we know that, according to the law of nature, human intellect will go on increasing. And, dogmas will continue to hinder this mental progress for many more years to come. I will say this to you all that you have understood well what is dogma, and what is not. And I will also say, that wherever you see dogma creating a hindrance to the growth of your intellect, there you should courageously go on crushing the dogmas and moving ahead!" (1)

Here ends the missing section of "Liberation of Intellect" (Patna, 26th January 1980). This important section on women has been deleted by our Tiljala Publishers, and it is still missing from our English AM books today. Again, the above is an informal translation of what Bábá has said in His original Hindi discourse.

Why yellow section was removed BY TP

Indeed, perhaps the most important section of the discourse, about the rights of women, has been deliberately taken away. This was done in order to shorten the length of the discourse-- so that in the long term, the number of printed pages in AM books would be less in Hindi and more in Bangla. So that Bangla would supercede Hindi altogether and be accepted as the most important language in Ananda Marga scripture. And the proof that Dada Sarvatmananda had this desire, is that this was done not with one discourse only, but with many. This became the overwhelming trend in our Tiljala Publications department, that any discourse in Hindi should be shortened as much as possible. For proof, see books AV-1,2,3 etc.

Unethical history of Dada Sarvatmananda

And this discourse "Liberation of Intellect", although given by Bábá in Hindi, was actually printed first in Bengali in AV part 18. And Bangla was presented to the Márgii public as the original language of the discourse. This very Bengali language edition was used by our publishers as the original also-- that is, Hindi and English editions were translated from this so-called "original" Bengali version. Although Bábá had given the discourse in Hindi, but the translated Bengali version was used to re-translate a new Hindi version, rather than using the original Hindi which Bábá gave the discourse in. So the Hindi and English editions of the discourse when they were later printed, were translated from Bengali. And it is even printed in the Hindi and English editions, that the discourse is "Translated from the original Bengali". And any subsequent other-language editions whether Spanish, Russian, Japanese etc, were all translated from the so-called "original" Bengali-- when actually this was not the original at all. The Hindi was the real original, but our Calcutta publishers befooled the Márgiis and general WTs into thinking that the Bengali version was the original. So in that very so-called original Bengali printing, the section about women's rights was removed. This was done out of a desire to minimize the Hindi discourse-- for in their own minds, our publishers knew that Bábá had given the discourse in Hindi and for this reason they wanted to minimize it. So they removed the section about womens' rights. And Márgiis were not aware, no one could know that anything was missing from the English and Bengali publications of the discourse. There was no note about it in the book, nothing at all was mentioned. And in these many years since then, the discourse has remained just like that. After the first printing, it was later published in "A Few Problems Solved" in 1987. Several years had passed since the first AV-18 printing, but still the section on women's rights remained missing in the English and Bengali publications of the discourse. And this is a major discourse-- "Liberation of Intellect". It is the very first discourse in the Neohumanism series.

In Him

Lalita’ Basu

For detailed study

From "Liberation of Intellect" (Patna, 26th January 1980). Here follows the As-Is original Hindi of the aforesaid yellow.

“दो चार महापुरुष भी तो ऐसे थे, (हम तो महापुरुष कहते हैं क्योंकि और शब्द का व्यवहार करना, उचित नहीं होगा) कहते थे, कि---"एक औरत एक पूरा मनुष्य नहीं है | तीन औरत समान एक पुरुष |" अद्भुत logic ! और जो लोग उनको मानेंगे, उनकी बुद्धि पर अवरोध डाला जाएगा | वे दूसरे किसी प्रकार का विचार, {जो} वे बर्दाश्त तक नहीं कर सकेंगे | जिस विचार से मन का स्वाभाविक विकाश होगा, बुद्धि का स्वाभाविक विकाश होगा, उस विचार से वे दूर रहेंगे, विचार से डरेंगे | Dogma उनको इस तरह से जकड़ लिया है |

कुछ लोग तो ऐसा भी कहेंगे कि---"मज़हब में अक़्ल का दख़ल नहीं है" | अर्थात्‌ जहाँ अक़्ल नहीं है, जहाँ मनुष्य अक़्ल मन्द नहीं है, जहाँ मनुष्य विचारशील नहीं हैं---वे मज़हब के चङ्गुल में फँसेंगे |

आज का आलोच्य विषय है---"बुद्धि की मुक्ति" | जीवन के हर पहलू में हमें बुद्धि से काम लेना पड़ता है | और हम अधिक से अधिक बुद्धि चाहते हैं, चाहेंगे | और हम जानते हैं, प्राकृतिक विकाश के अनुसार मनुष्य की बुद्धि बढ़ती रहेगी | और इस बुद्धि के परिवर्त्तन में और भी कई सालों तक ये जो dogmas हैं, बाधा डालती रहेंगी | हम तुम लोगों से यही कहेंगे, कि तुम लोगों में यहाँ तक बुद्धि तो आ गई है कि कौन dogma है, और कौन dogma नहीं है | यह समझाने की बुद्धि तुम में आ गई है | हम यहीं कहेंगे कि जहाँ देखोगे---तुम्हारी बुद्धि के विकाश में dogma बाधा डाल रही है, वहाँ हिम्मत के साथ dogma को चूर-चूर कर आगे बढ़ते रहो | “ (2)

Electronic Edition also missing deleted section

Below is the 2009 Electronic Edition. The section marked in yellow is where the deleted section is missing. The missing section should have begun immediately following the words marked in yellow.

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Note 1: Aforementioned yellow para missing from the following books

The missing section where Bábá exposes the dogma about three women equaling one man has been removed from the English and Bengali version of the discourse. That is why that para does not appear in any of the following books:

(1) NHNS-1, '87 Edn, English

(2) NHNS-1, '99 Edn, English

(3) AV-18, '80 Edn, Bangla

(4) AFPS-4, '87 Edn

(5) Electronic Books (EE 7.5)

The missing section would be just before the final paragraph of the English version of the 'Liberation of Intellect' discourse. So it would appear just AFTER the words "severely hindered in many countries.", and just BEFORE the opening words of the last paragraph, "On one side the malevolent forces".

Section related with women is missing from the book NHNS(E) part I

Below is a scan of Neohumanism in a Nutshell part I. The final paragraph on p.35 marked in red is where TP has removed the important section which was about women’s rights. The missing section would have begun at the red ‘X’ mark.

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“Three women equal one man”-- This very dogma exposed by Bábá was removed from the book.

Note 2: Bábá says, where one is being pointed out for a mistake, "If there is even a little fault in you, you should keep your mouth closed and accept it all, and you should thank the person for pointing our your fault and request punishment." (5)

But instead of accepting their mistake, TP may give the preposterous and lame excuse that, "Oh, what can we do? The audio cassette was stolen." So watch out. Everybody knows that they have all the cassettes.

Bábá says, where one is being pointed out for a mistake, "If there is even a little fault in you, you should keep your mouth closed and accept it all, and you should thank the person for pointing our your fault and request punishment." (5)

Note 3: In order to make Bábá’s books pristine, please forward this posting to the respected Tiljala Publications Secretary, dada Mantreshwarananda ji <Mantreshwarananda@hotmail.com>, and to respected dada Acyutananda ji, <acyutananda1@gmail.com>.

References

1. As-Is version, "Liberation of Intellect", Patna, 26th January 1980. Translated from original Hindi.

2. As-Is version, "Liberation of Intellect", Patna, 26th January 1980. Original Hindi.

3. Tiljala Publications, "Liberation of Intellect", Patna, 26th January 1980, 2009 Electronic Edition.

4. Tiljala Publications, "Liberation of Intellect", Patna, 26th January 1980, Neohumanism in a Nutshell (E) part I.

5. Ananda Marga Caryácarya Part 2, point 20.

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