H group is distorting Bábá’s books

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H group is distorting Bábá’s books

Namaskár,

Again and again Bábá has warned that unqualified people should not ruin His teachings by manipulating them and providing wrong translation. That very thing which Bábá prohibits, has happened in this following case.

The AV-30 English discourse “Mysticism” has been completely ruined by mis-translation. The H group Publisher Sampurnanda has printed multiple times the very term which Bábá has prohibited.

While talking about mysticism in a Hindi discourse, Bábá clearly directed that “mysticism” and “rahasyátmakatá / rahasyaváda” are not the same thing. In Indian languages He has guided that mysticism is to be called “mystic-váda”. (see note 1)

Blunder by stooge Sampurnanda

But the translator for this Hindi version of AV-30 has done just the opposite, using instead the term which Baba has banned. Please see the underlined terms below. All these usages are wrong.

Here below is the back cover of AV-30 Hindi, translated and published by Sampurnanda H group. H group has printed the full AV-30 discourse called “Mysticism” here on the back cover. Wherever Bábá has spoken the word “mysticism” in English, H group has wrongly translated it as “rahasyátmakatá”. Each of these wrong translations goes directly against Bábá’s guideline, and is underlined in red below.  

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Here above is the back cover of AV-30 Hindi, wrongly translated and published by H group.  

As mentioned, wherever Bábá has spoken the word “mysticism”, H group has wrongly translated it as “rahasyátmakatá”. Each of these wrong translations goes directly against Bábá’s guideline, and is underlined in red above.

Conclusion: Distortion by Rudrananda’s stooges

Those who want to translate Bábá’s discourses should be qualified. They should read Bábá’s various grammar rules and guidelines. Otherwise they should not be allowed to translate. If we ignore this point, the result will be toxic to Bábá’s teachings. And that is just what has happened here. Those things which Bábá Himself has barred, have been used in His name—due to ignorance.

This harm has been done by H group. H group is copying the work of Tiljala Publications, sticking their own name on it, and getting it translated by worthless people. The example discussed here is just the tip of the iceberg. If those knowing Hindi and English compare the original English (see note 3) with the above scan of the Hindi translation, they will see that this AV-30 translation is full of junk.

It is sad that Bábá’s books are getting ruined by unworthy people before our eyes.

We have to save Bábá’s discourses.

Namaskar,

Vedprakash

मिष्टिकवाद “mystic-váda” is right word

Note 1. Here below Bábá is explaining in Hindi that “rahasyaváda” is the wrong translation of the word “mysticism”. Rather, Bábá says, the proper translation is “mystic-váda”.

Bábá says, “जैसा मानस-लोक में मन का भाव और परमात्मभाव, दोनों में सम्पर्क निर्णय करने का जो प्रयास होता है, जिसको हम साहित्य में mysticism कहते हैं -- incorrectly जिसको लोग "रहस्यवाद" कहते हैं | रहस्यवाद नहीं, मिष्टिकवाद कहना ही अच्छा होगा |”[ सहज नैतिकता और आध्यात्मिक नैतिकता [Sahaja Naetikatá aor Ádhyátmika Naetikatá] V26-24, GD 1/1/70, “As-Is” transcription.] (2)

Note 2. Here below please see the H group Publisher’s Page for AV-30, the book with the above shown scan of the back cover. It is published by dada Sampurnananda of H group.

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Note 3.

Original English discourse

Below is Bábá’s original discourse about mysticism. Bábá’s original usage of the word “mysticism” is shown below in bold. Those have been wrongly translated in the above scan with the words underlined in red.

Mysticism

2 June 1990, Anandanagar

Ánanda Vacanámrtam Part 30, “Mysticism”, Ánanda Vacanámrtam part 30. Electronic Edition, 2009.

“I exist, my Lord exists, and my search for His glamour, my search for His grandeur, is never-ending. I am moving unto Him, moving along a never-ending path. This search for the Great by the little is called mysticism. The fundamental point of spirituality depends on this mysticism. And when this mysticism, this outward existence of mysticism, coincides with the inner spirit of mysticism, the goal is reached: the unit becomes Cosmic.”

“And for the attainment of this status we have come here. We have come to this world, so our lives are not meaningless. Our everything is meaningful; and by our knowledge, by our action and by our sincerity, we will be increasing our meaningfulness from unit to Infinite.” (4)

2 June 1990, Anandanagar

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Note 5. Please forward this posting to the respected dadas Tiljala Publications Secretary Mantreshwarananda ji <Mantreshwarananda@hotmail.com>, and Acyutananda ji <acyutananda1@gmail.com>.

Also please send to dada Rudranandji <acaryarudrananda@gmail.com>, dada Shambhushivanandji <shambhushivananda@gmail.com>, and GS dada Citsvarupananda <citsvarupananda@gmail.com>, <generalsecretaryamps@gmail.com>

References

1. “Mysticism”, Ánanda Vacanámrtam part 30. H group publications, 2011.

2. सहज नैतिकता और आध्यात्मिक नैतिकता [Sahaja Naetikatá aor Ádhyátmika Naetikatá] V26-24, GD 1/1/70, “As-Is” transcription.

3. Publisher’s Page, Ánanda Vacanámrtam part 30. H group publications, 2011.

4. “Mysticism”, Ánanda Vacanámrtam part 30. Electronic Edition, 2009.

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Namaskár,

Here following is the example of a contradiction in Ánanda Márga philosophy. It is sad but obvious that this happened due to the fault of our Tiljala Publications department. Let us come and find out about the contradiction.

Yellow is False, Green is Correct

Quote #1, highlighted in yellow, contradicts quote #2 which is highlighted in green.

Quote #1:

Ánanda Márga ideology says, “Mana eva manuśyańám kárańam bandha-mokśayoh. In other words the unit attains salvation only when she/he empties her/his mind of all objects.” (Subháśita Saḿgraha Part 2) (ref. 1)

Quote #2:

Ánanda Márga ideology says, "Those who embrace nothingness as their absolute goal develop a void in their citta in the absence of Cognitive Faculty. As a result they are unable to establish themselves in the Supreme Cognitive Stance and attain salvation. The spiritual cult which encourages this practice is certainly defective." (Subháśita Saḿgraha Part 8) (ref. 2)

Quote #1 says that when you make your mind empty, then you will realize God.

Quote #2 says that when you make your mind empty, then you will not realize God.

Conclusion

Quote #1 is from Subháśita Saḿgraha Part 2; quote #2 is from Subháśita Saḿgraha Part 8. And these two quotes contradict each other. Contradiction in any philosophy breaks the backbone of that philosophy. Ánanda Márga philosophy is not contradictory, but due to our Tiljala Publisher’s mistakes this false contradiction occurred. It is sad.

Ánanda Márga philosophy states, "The scriptures containing spiritual injunctions must be totally flawless." (3)

At His lotus feet,

Jyoti

Jennifer Ward

Publishers are the cause of contradiction in AM books

In view of this fact that the teachings of Táraka Brahma are perfect, never change, and contain no contradictions—in view of this, if any contradiction is found in Ánanda Márga scripture, it can only be an error of the Publishers who put the discourse into written form. Any contradiction found is due not to the Giver of the scripture, but to the medium by which that scripture was put in print.

The printed versions of the two above-mentioned discourses flagrantly contradict one another—and this contradiction has been present for almost six decades.

Two contradictory definitions printed by TP—Makes AM philosophy look hypocritical

This above discussed contradiction has been sitting in AMPS’s printed books being sold all over the world for almost six decades. The wrong teaching—from “The Intuitional Science of the Vedas - 1” in Subháśita Saḿgraha Part 2, and the correct teaching—from ”Psychic Assimilation in Psycho-Spiritual Practice”, Subháśita Saḿgraha Part 8—have both been in print for approximately that much time. And this contradiction is not subtle or vague; it is a glaring contradiction that makes Bábá look like someone who says one thing at one time, and an opposite thing at another.

Now here is one vital point: In any philosophy, if there are contradictions within it that is deadly. A philosophy which is self-contradictory cannot survive. So the presence of such a glaring contradiction is extremely serious and threatens the whole of Ánanda Márga scripture. Yet in around sixty years, the Tiljala Publishers never fixed it.

One must ask the question as to how it could be that the Tiljala Publishers never fixed such a glaring contradiction as this in sixty years.

Contradiction in scripture is deadly

Must repair without delay

The presence of such a contradiction in our Ánanda Márga scripture is of vital importance and must be repaired without delay. The very survival of Ánanda Márga ideology as guiding light for the suffering humanity, depends on this.

Ananda Marga philosophy states, "The scriptures containing spiritual injunctions must be totally flawless." (3)

Note 1.

Fix Bábá's Discourses Now or Never

If we remain passive onlookers and do not fix the negative trends of introducing distortion into Shrii Shrii Ánandamúrtiji's discourses—if we do not bring the printed discourses up to the proper standard now—it will become impossible to change this in the future. And even if in the future some sincere Ánanda Márgiis try, they will be treated as enemies. Because this is the way religion works: Today one cannot teach the devotees of Lord Krśńa that He has nothing to do with cows; they will never believe it. In the same way, Ánanda Márgiis will become used to the wrong teachings in our AM books and they will not like to give them up. They will think that whatever was there at the end of the twentieth century, that was the gold standard for all time. And it should be kept and maintained.

Ánanda Márga is dharma—not religion—but we will face the same opposition from within to change, when wrong teachings get established.

So we don't have any time: it is either now or never. The clock is ticking: If we do not get Bábá's discourses fixed now, it will be impossible to do so later. And that will cause bloodshed and more division on the basis of the various versions of Bábá's teachings and their explanations. History bears testimony to this, that all the religions have similarly broken into multiple factions, groups and subgroups on the basis of differences in scripture interpretations. Bábá wanted to eliminate such problems, and that is why Bábá's discourses are recorded. But unfortunately, those recordings are not being published properly. This matter is very serious.

Note 2. If you need help on this matter

If you do not have the concerned book or discourses related with this topic then kindly write us and we will provide the concerning chapter(s) to you.  Also, if any aspect of this topic is unclear, then please write us. And if you have any difficulty downloading the sound file, please let us know and we will be glad to help you.

Note 3. In order to make Bábá’s teachings distortion-free, please forward this posting to the respected dadas Tiljala Publications Secretary Mantreshwarananda ji <Mantreshwarananda@hotmail.com>, and Acyutananda ji <acyutananda1@gmail.com>.

References

1. “The Intuitional Science of the Vedas – 1”, Subháśita Saḿgraha Part 2, and Ananda Marga Ideology and Way of Life in a Nutshell Part 2. Shrávańii Púrńimá 1955 DMC, Monghyr.

2. Psychic Assimilation in Psycho-Spiritual Practice”, Subháśita Saḿgraha Part 8, and Ananda Marga Ideology and Way of Life in a Nutshell Part 9. Ásáŕhii Púrńimá 1959 DMC, Hazipur, Bihar.

3. “Disc: Shiva's Teachings – 2 (continued)” (Discourse 14), Namah Shiváya Shántáya

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